Friday, 9 October 2026

The Dream Blottisham Had About Turing and Gödel

“I had another dream.”

Professor Quillibrace looked up.

Miss Stray smiled.

“Who was in it this time?”

“Turing and Gödel.”

Quillibrace put down his book.

“Ah.”

“I knew you would say that.”

“What happened?”

“I was in a room with two men and a machine.”

“What sort of machine?”

“That was the trouble. Nobody would tell me.”

“Was it working?”

“Yes.”

“What was it doing?”

“Thinking.”

Quillibrace raised an eyebrow.

Blottisham continued.

“Turing was standing beside it.

Gödel was sitting at a desk.

There was a piece of paper on the desk.”

“What did it say?”

Blottisham frowned.

“I don't know.”

“You couldn't read it?”

“I could read it perfectly.”

“What did it say?”

“I don't know.”

Miss Stray smiled.

“Go on.”

“I asked Turing what the machine did.

He said, ‘It computes.’

I asked what it computed.

He said, ‘Whatever can be computed.’

I asked what couldn't be computed.

He said, ‘That depends on the question.’

“So I asked Gödel.

He said, ‘Some questions cannot be decided within the system in which they are asked.’

“I said, ‘Then ask them somewhere else.’

“Gödel said, ‘Where?’

“I said, ‘Outside the system.’

“He said, ‘You have not told me what that is.’”

Quillibrace nodded.

“That sounds rather like Gödel.”

“I thought so too.”

“What happened next?”

“I asked Turing to build a machine that could decide everything.”

“And?”

“He said no.”

“Why?”

“He said that some problems have no general algorithm that will always give the answer.

I asked him to build a machine that would recognise those problems.

He said that was another problem.”

Miss Stray laughed.

“I became annoyed.”

“Understandably.”

“I said, ‘Why don't you just make the machine do what it needs to do?’

“Turing said, ‘Because then we would need to know what it needs to do.’

“Gödel said, ‘And you may not be able to prove that you know.’

“I said, ‘This is getting ridiculous.’”

“What did they say?”

“Nothing.”

“Why?”

“They were looking at the machine.”

Blottisham paused.

“It had started writing.”

“What?”

“I don't know.”

“You still couldn't read it?”

“I could read every symbol.”

“But?”

“But the symbols were asking questions.”

Quillibrace leaned forward.

“What sort of questions?”

“Questions about the machine.”

Miss Stray nodded.

“Self-reference.”

“Yes.”

“The machine asked whether it could answer its own question.”

“And could it?”

“That was the question.”

Quillibrace smiled.

“What did you do?”

“I switched it off.”

There was a silence.

“You can't do that,” said Quillibrace.

“I did in the dream.”

“What happened?”

“The machine continued.”

Blottisham looked offended by the memory.

“I said, ‘It's switched off.’

“Turing said, ‘That is a description of its state.’

“Gödel said, ‘Not necessarily of what follows from it.’

“I said, ‘If it's switched off, it isn't doing anything.’

“Turing said, ‘You are assuming that the machine is the only system involved.’

“I said, ‘What other system is there?’

“They both looked at me.”

“What did you realise?”

“I realised I was in it.”

Miss Stray smiled.

“The system?”

“The dream.”

“Ah.”

“I tried to leave.”

He paused.

“There was a door.”

“Was it locked?”

“No.”

“Then why didn't you leave?”

“It wasn't a computable door.”

Quillibrace closed his eyes.

“What does that mean?”

“I don't know. That's why I couldn't open it.”

Miss Stray laughed.

“So what happened?”

“I asked Turing whether there was an algorithm for opening the door.

“He said, ‘There may be.’

“I asked whether he knew it.

“He said, ‘No.’

“I asked Gödel whether he could prove that the door could be opened.

“He said, ‘Not from here.’

“I said, ‘Then you're both useless.’”

“And?”

“Turing smiled.

Gödel looked at the piece of paper.”

Blottisham became quieter.

“The paper was now on the door.”

“What did it say?”

“I still don't know.”

“You've said that already.”

“Yes.”

“But you could read it.”

“Yes.”

“So what did it say?”

Blottisham looked at them.

“It said:

THIS SENTENCE CANNOT BE PROVED.”

Quillibrace nodded.

“And then?”

“I said, ‘That's obviously a contradiction.’”

“Was it?”

“I don't know.”

“What did Gödel say?”

“He said, ‘That depends on the system.’”

“And Turing?”

“He said, ‘And on what you mean by proved.’”

“I said, ‘But surely one of you must know whether it's true.’”

Gödel said:

“Truth and provability are not the same thing.”

Turing said:

“And knowing what a machine does is not the same as making it do everything.”

“I said, ‘So there are things you can know that you cannot prove?’”

Gödel nodded.

“And things you cannot compute?”

Turing nodded.

“I said, ‘That's terrible.’”

Gödel looked at me.

“No,” he said.

“It is a boundary.”

Turing looked at the machine.

“A boundary can be useful.”

Then the machine printed something.

This time I could read it.

It said:

WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

I said:

“Trying to wake up.”

The machine printed:

THAT IS NOT A COMPUTATION.

I said:

“Why not?”

Turing said:

“Because you haven't specified the procedure.”

Gödel said:

“Perhaps it cannot be specified from within the system.”

I shouted:

“Then how do I get out?”

There was a long silence.

Finally Turing said:

“You can try.”

Gödel said:

“But you cannot prove that you will.”

I woke up.

Quillibrace was staring at him.

Miss Stray was trying not to laugh.

“And what did you do?”

Blottisham looked at the table.

“I checked whether I was still in the dream.”

“How?”

“I asked myself a question.”

“What question?”

“‘Am I awake?’”

“And?”

“I didn't know.”

Quillibrace smiled.

“That proves nothing.”

“I know.”

“Good.”

Blottisham looked relieved.

Then he noticed a piece of paper lying beside his tea.

He picked it up.

It contained a single sentence.

He read it.

Then read it again.

“What does it say?” asked Miss Stray.

Blottisham handed it to her.

She looked at it.

So did Quillibrace.

The paper said:

THIS SENTENCE CANNOT BE PROVED IN THE SENIOR COMMON ROOM.

Nobody spoke.

Then Blottisham stood up.

“I think I'm going back to bed.”

“Why?”

“So I can wake up somewhere else.”

Quillibrace looked at the paper.

“That is not a proof.”

“I don't need a proof.”

Blottisham reached the door.

“I need a procedure.”

He opened it.

Beyond the door was another Senior Common Room.

Blottisham stared.

Miss Stray looked at Quillibrace.

Quillibrace looked at the paper.

From the other room came Blottisham's voice.

“Can somebody please tell me which one is the original?”

There was a pause.

Then another Blottisham said:

“That's the wrong question.”

The door closed.

Nobody saw which one closed it.

The Dream Blottisham Had About Bohr and Heisenberg

Mr Blottisham had the dream on a Tuesday.

He reported it on Wednesday morning.

“I have had a scientific dream.”

Professor Quillibrace looked up.

“Was it accurate?”

“No.”

“Then why was it scientific?”

“Because there were scientists in it.”

Miss Stray poured him some tea.

“Who?”

“Niels Bohr and Werner Heisenberg.”

Quillibrace put down his spoon.

“That could be interesting.”

“It wasn't.”

“What happened?”

“I asked them a question.”

“Which was?”

“What was happening?”

Quillibrace waited.

Blottisham frowned.

“They wouldn't tell me.”

“Why not?”

“They kept asking what I meant.”

“That sounds reasonable.”

“It wasn't.”

Blottisham began.


I was standing in a room with two tables.

On the first table was a small box.

On the second table was another small box.

I asked Bohr what was in the first box.

He said:

“That depends on what you are able to say about it.”

I said:

“There's a box.”

He said:

“Yes.”

“So what's inside it?”

He looked at Heisenberg.

Heisenberg looked at the second box.

I looked inside the first box.

There was nothing there.

I said:

“Nothing.”

Bohr said:

“You have changed the situation.”

I said:

“I've opened a box.”

He said:

“Exactly.”

I said:

“But it was empty.”

Heisenberg said:

“Was it?”

I said:

“Yes.”

He said:

“Before you opened it?”

I thought about this.

“No.”

“Then how do you know?”

“Because I looked.”

Heisenberg nodded.

Bohr smiled.

I became suspicious.


“That doesn't sound like much of a conversation,” said Miss Stray.

“It got worse.”

“How?”

“I asked them which box contained the object.”

“What object?”

“I didn't know.”

Quillibrace smiled.

“Excellent.”

“It wasn't.”

Blottisham continued.


There was now an object on the table.

I could see it.

I asked:

“What is it?”

Bohr said:

“What can you say about it?”

I said:

“It's there.”

He said:

“Good.”

“It's small.”

“Good.”

“It has a position.”

Heisenberg said:

“What position?”

I pointed at it.

“There.”

He said:

“That is not a measurement.”

“Why not?”

“Because you haven't said how precisely.”

I said:

“It's on the table.”

He said:

“Which is a useful description.”

I said:

“Then why can't I have the precise position as well?”

Heisenberg looked at Bohr.

Bohr looked at me.

Then Bohr said:

“You can ask the question.”

“Excellent.”

“But the question changes what can meaningfully be said next.”

“Why?”

He pointed to the object.

“Because you have asked it of something.”

I said:

“That doesn't make sense.”

He smiled.

“Perhaps you are beginning to understand.”


Blottisham stopped.

“I hated that part.”

“Why?” asked Quillibrace.

“Because they kept agreeing with me when I disagreed with them.”

Miss Stray laughed.

“What happened next?”

“I tried a different approach.”


I asked them whether the object was a particle.

Bohr said:

“Under some experimental arrangements, particle language may be appropriate.”

I asked whether it was a wave.

He said:

“Under other arrangements, wave language may be appropriate.”

I said:

“So which is it?”

Heisenberg said:

“What are you trying to find out?”

I said:

“What it is.”

He looked genuinely puzzled.

“Why?”

“Because things are supposed to be something.”

Bohr shook his head.

“You are asking for a description independent of the conditions under which description is possible.”

I said:

“Yes.”

He said:

“That is a very classical request.”

I said:

“Thank you.”

“It wasn't a compliment.”


Quillibrace smiled.

“That sounds very much like Bohr.”

“You weren't there.”

“No.”

“So how do you know?”

“I've read Bohr.”

“Then you already know too much.”

Miss Stray leaned forward.

“And Heisenberg?”

Blottisham sighed.

“He was worse.”


I asked Heisenberg:

“Can you tell me exactly where the object is?”

He said:

“Not with arbitrary precision.”

“Why?”

He drew two lines on a piece of paper.

Then another two.

Then he rubbed them out.

I asked what he had been drawing.

He said:

“Something you could not see because you were looking at it.”

I said:

“That's ridiculous.”

He said:

“Perhaps.”

I said:

“So you don't know where it is.”

He said:

“I know what can be predicted.”

I said:

“That's not the same thing.”

He looked pleased.

“No,” he said.

“It isn't.”


At this point I decided they were deliberately avoiding the question.

So I asked:

“Is the object real?”

Bohr became very quiet.

Heisenberg looked at the object.

Then Bohr said:

“What would count as evidence?”

I said:

“That I can see it.”

He said:

“Good.”

“I can touch it.”

“Good.”

“I can measure it.”

“Good.”

“So it's real.”

He nodded.

Then he asked:

“Real in what sense?”

I woke up.


There was silence in the Common Room.

Blottisham looked from Quillibrace to Miss Stray.

“Well?”

“Well what?” said Quillibrace.

“What was the answer?”

“To what?”

“To my question.”

Miss Stray smiled.

“You've just described the problem.”

“What problem?”

“The dream.”

Blottisham frowned.

“I don't see it.”

“You wanted them to tell you what the object was independently of the ways in which you could investigate it.”

“Yes.”

“And they kept asking what you meant by asking.”

“Yes.”

“And when you asked whether it was real, Bohr asked what would count as evidence.”

“Yes.”

Quillibrace leaned back.

“You were asking for an account of the object that stood outside the conditions of observation.”

Blottisham looked offended.

“I was asking a perfectly ordinary question.”

“Exactly.”

Miss Stray said, “Perhaps that was the point.”

Blottisham was silent.

Then:

“So what were they saying?”

Quillibrace considered.

“That physical descriptions are not simply labels attached to things independently of experimental conditions.”

“And?”

“That different experimental arrangements can make different aspects of a quantum system available to description.”

“And?”

“That the limits on what can simultaneously be known are not merely limits of human patience.”

Blottisham looked at him.

“So they were saying the object isn't allowed to be something unless we ask it properly.”

“No.”

“Good.”

“They were saying something rather more subtle.”

“What?”

Quillibrace paused.

“That the question you ask is part of the physical situation in which an answer can be given.”

Blottisham stared at him.

Miss Stray said quietly:

“Perhaps you weren't excluded from their conversation after all.”

Blottisham looked doubtful.

“They didn't answer me.”

“They did.”

“When?”

“When you woke up.”

He considered this.

Then he looked at the table.

There were two small boxes on it.

Nobody remembered putting them there.

Blottisham stood up.

“I'm not opening those.”

Quillibrace smiled.

“Why not?”

“Because I don't know what's inside.”

Miss Stray looked at him.

“Exactly.”

Blottisham sat down again.

“I knew there was a reason I didn't like scientists.”

Quillibrace reached for one of the boxes.

Blottisham immediately stopped him.

“No.”

“Why?”

“Because now you've changed the situation.”

Quillibrace paused.

Miss Stray smiled.

Blottisham looked from one to the other.

Then he smiled too.

“Don't say it.”

Quillibrace closed his hand around the box.

“I wasn't going to.”

From inside it came a faint knocking sound.

All three looked at it.

Nobody opened the box.